tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3052221033301075322.post420794015864909303..comments2023-11-07T22:56:59.680-06:00Comments on Soak up a unique analysis of politics, culture, religion and societal ills.: Will burning my bra make me happy?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3052221033301075322.post-81987573808307244342009-06-09T15:40:59.114-05:002009-06-09T15:40:59.114-05:00You're clearly using the wrong kind of shampoo...You're clearly using the wrong kind of shampoo.Scott Segalnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3052221033301075322.post-78755966115774657812009-06-05T08:23:25.366-05:002009-06-05T08:23:25.366-05:00Perhaps men and women have different kinds of happ...Perhaps men and women have different kinds of happiness and different things make them happy or unhappy. The study assumes that all happiness is the same, which I don't think it is.<br /><br />I think it is also important to note the biological aspects of happiness. Depression can be biological and can be very much connected to the environment. For example, a deficiency in Vitamin D can cause depression, and most women don't go out into the sun nearly enough (often for the very good reason of skin cancer).<br /><br />I agree that the pressure to be the best at everything you do is daunting for me as a woman, and I worry that I won't be able to spend enough time with my family in the future and I worry about dragging them from country to country and continent to continent to pursue my dreams. But then again, I don't think I can give up those dreams, either.Rachel Karphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14067800155222607596noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3052221033301075322.post-55734420301122728542009-06-04T23:57:36.005-05:002009-06-04T23:57:36.005-05:00Thanks Anonymous for your thoughtful response.Thanks Anonymous for your thoughtful response.scarpetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04048255963372452197noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3052221033301075322.post-76238073798494632382009-06-04T22:25:29.525-05:002009-06-04T22:25:29.525-05:00First, saying that the notion of happiness is &quo...First, saying that the notion of happiness is "a modern one" is somewhat nearsighted, given that it's at the core of practically any ideology, including the ones you mentioned. Your characterization of the Buddhist notion of suffering is rather superficial, and without getting too much into it, I just want to quote the opening lines of the Dalai Lama’s recent lecture in Arizona: "I believe that the very purpose of our life is to seek happiness [...], the very motion of our life it towards happiness …" Your treatment of “Western Religions" is equally crude. From St. Augustine to Thomas Aquinas to Pope Benedict XVI, Christian theologians have been consistently stressing happiness as inseparable from virtue and goodness.<br /><br />In the secular arena, the "pursuit of happiness" is one of the "unalienable rights" of people enumerated in the Declaration of Independence, arguably the ideological foundation of American liberalism. You can find the phrase "pursuit of happiness" in several state Constitutions, in numerous court opinions, and in the Constitutions that we helped draft for other countries (e.g., Japan, Vietman). The phrase also appears in some of the foundational feminist literature, such as the 1848 Declaration of Sentiments.<br /><br />The feminists who are most pertinent here (the so-called second-wave feminists and third-wave feminists of the past 40 years e.g., Betty Friedan) were particularly concerned with happiness. Many legal inequalities have been addressed (or were soon to be addressed), and the focus largely shifted to the discontent of women, whose gender roles prevented them from seeking fulfillment outside of the home.<br /><br />This feminism of the past 40 years was instrumental in bringing women outside of the home and, supposedly, put women on the path of greater fulfillment. Therefore, I don't understand why you take issue with the legitimacy of question (that this study raises) regarding how women's happiness correlated with the evolution of feminism. And I do want to note that your attack on the validity of the question appears to be a knee-jerk reaction to the inconvenience of the answer. It is much easier to blame women's declining happiness on "unrealistic expectations" of happiness and on "lack of appreciation for the ordinary," as you put it. However, these reasons do not explain why, during the past few decades, the happiness of women has fallen drastically RELATIVE TO THAT OF MEN, as the study reports. Wouldn't unrealistic expectations and lack of appreciation for the ordinary make men less happy as well?<br /><br />The truth is that feminism, while bringing about positive change for women, also failed in some respects. It did not just provide equality and opportunity, as you claim, but it created a whole new culture, in which there was pressure for women not to miss a single opportunity. This culture did not just make the pursuit of happiness more feasible for women, but it also dictated the kind happiness that should be pursued. It prescribed that to be happy, an enlightened woman should aspire to make partner at a law firm, or to become an executive on Wall Street, or to become a scientist, a politician, etc. It established that a woman with a Blackberry and a frequent flyer club card will have superior depth/intellect over a stay-at-home mom. The term "stay-at-home mom" itself became derogatory, suggesting that no woman can find fulfillment through raising a family.<br /><br />This study is not "an indictment on feminism," as you say, but rather a suggestion that perhaps the past/present women’s interests philosophies did not get everything right. By no means does this study put forward that they got it all wrong, e.g., that "equal rights ...," etc. was a bad idea, but it does propose that we reexamine the resulting cultural discourse and perhaps modify it to remove some of the pressure that is potentially causing the decline in women’s happiness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3052221033301075322.post-34382059948756450112009-06-04T22:24:55.268-05:002009-06-04T22:24:55.268-05:00First, saying that the notion of happiness is &quo...First, saying that the notion of happiness is "a modern one" is somewhat nearsighted, given that it's at the core of practically any ideology, including the ones you mentioned. Your characterization of the Buddhist notion of suffering is rather superficial, and without getting too much into it, I just want to quote the opening lines of the Dalai Lama’s recent lecture in Arizona: "I believe that the very purpose of our life is to seek happiness [...], the very motion of our life it towards happiness …" Your treatment of “Western Religions" is equally crude. From St. Augustine to Thomas Aquinas to Pope Benedict XVI, Christian theologians have been consistently stressing happiness as inseparable from virtue and goodness.<br /><br />In the secular arena, the "pursuit of happiness" is one of the "unalienable rights" of people enumerated in the Declaration of Independence, arguably the ideological foundation of American liberalism. You can find the phrase "pursuit of happiness" in several state Constitutions, in numerous court opinions, and in the Constitutions that we helped draft for other countries (e.g., Japan, Vietman). The phrase also appears in some of the foundational feminist literature, such as the 1848 Declaration of Sentiments.<br /><br />The feminists who are most pertinent here (the so-called second-wave feminists and third-wave feminists of the past 40 years e.g., Betty Friedan) were particularly concerned with happiness. Many legal inequalities have been addressed (or were soon to be addressed), and the focus largely shifted to the discontent of women, whose gender roles prevented them from seeking fulfillment outside of the home.<br /><br />This feminism of the past 40 years was instrumental in bringing women outside of the home and, supposedly, put women on the path of greater fulfillment. Therefore, I don't understand why you take issue with the legitimacy of question (that this study raises) regarding how women's happiness correlated with the evolution of feminism. And I do want to note that your attack on the validity of the question appears to be a knee-jerk reaction to the inconvenience of the answer. It is much easier to blame women's declining happiness on "unrealistic expectations" of happiness and on "lack of appreciation for the ordinary," as you put it. However, these reasons do not explain why, during the past few decades, the happiness of women has fallen drastically RELATIVE TO THAT OF MEN, as the study reports. Wouldn't unrealistic expectations and lack of appreciation for the ordinary make men less happy as well?<br /><br />The truth is that feminism, while bringing about positive change for women, also failed in some respects. It did not just provide equality and opportunity, as you claim, but it created a whole new culture, in which there was pressure for women not to miss a single opportunity. This culture did not just make the pursuit of happiness more feasible for women, but it also dictated the kind happiness that should be pursued. It prescribed that to be happy, an enlightened woman should aspire to make partner at a law firm, or to become an executive on Wall Street, or to become a scientist, a politician, etc. It established that a woman with a Blackberry and a frequent flyer club card will have superior depth/intellect over a stay-at-home mom. The term "stay-at-home mom" itself became derogatory, suggesting that no woman can find fulfillment through raising a family.<br /><br />This study is not "an indictment on feminism," as you say, but rather a suggestion that perhaps the past/present women’s interests philosophies did not get everything right. By no means does this study put forward that they got it all wrong, e.g., that "equal rights ...," etc. was a bad idea, but it does propose that we reexamine the resulting cultural discourse and perhaps modify it to remove some of the pressure that is potentially causing the decline in women’s happiness.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3052221033301075322.post-3142844342546696142009-06-03T22:18:24.479-05:002009-06-03T22:18:24.479-05:00I tend to think feminism has been a real force beh...I tend to think feminism has been a real force behind the decline of Amreica. It has contributed to the breakdown of the family unit. And now it's leading us to the edge of Socialism. Apparently drive thru abortion and promiscuity weren'tthe keys to female happiness.dirk-monidesnoreply@blogger.com